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If you understand farming you understand the grain. If you don't understand farming then you don't understand the grain. What does this saying really mean? It means that if you don't understand death, then you will be afraid of it. If you do understand death, then your have been blessed with the foresight of faith. With death come rebirth, passing from physical to spiritual. You will grow in a spiritual sense when your carnal growth is completed. I hope you all get some insight from these words. Nagato's growth in the ninja world has come to an end. However, he didn't bare any good fruit. :-)

that moved me to tears sato @102. :) you indeed are the enlightened one. G*d bless you. asalam alaykum. (did i get the blessing right?) :)

@99 thanks mnpc, i loved it, too. :) pls read sato's inspired comment @102 as well. shalom. :)

what did i say about faith

@venger. indeed you are so right about faith being the bridge that connects our living and dying and whatever lies beyond. without faith, love is a sham; without faith, hope is merely wishful thinking. your faith has healed you . . . Jesus says, most probably from the fear and indictment, and their consequent guilt and shame. it is God's faith that saves us - God believes in us, even before we believe and know Him/Her. If it is impossible for anyone to believe or love without knowing, then God must have seen something better in us while we only see the filth and ugliness of our broken lives. this is faith -- to believe what God believes. God believes in us. And so I pray that I may not disappoint . . . that God may help my unbelief.

Melo: I am a Jesus Lover and follower. We are all born under the Father of Many Nations. I am glad that you were to see the inspirational meaning. Thanks for your wise comment.

LOL... this is turning to be religious belief forum??? Joking xD sato and vengo u guys have good points ! T_T IOM, the main important things in our lives are LOVE, FAITH, RESPECT, RESPONSIBILTY.......the most important thing in the 4 top things is LOVE i mean without LOVE life is meaningless.

THIS IS SPOILER OF CH.444(not confirmed yet): “So, how about it Uzumaki Naruto. How will you mend the world to embrace peace. Let me here your answer,” asked Nagato. “First, I would like to ask you a question,” said Naruto. naruto 444 (Nagato noods his head) “Fine. If its for peace, I’ll gladly take you up on your offer,” said Nagato. “How did you end up this way? Full of so much hatred. Was it really because Konoha shinobi did all this too you? Konoha doesn’t seem to be your only target. Earlier you said you wanted to rebirth the world through pain, and that will create peace,” said Naruto. “Amagekure was deemed as a plain to house the wars of the warring nations. Naturally Konoha was simply attacked first because it was convient for me because you were there. I figured I could kill two birds with one stone you see,” said Nagato. naruto 444 spoiler “THOSE PEOPLE ARE LONG GONE NOW! So why, why are you targeting us. With your power you could do so much good, much more good than people could imagine. The pervy Sage trained you and gave you care. He was a Konoha shinobi, so why couldn’t you treat others in a similar way,” asked Naruto. “I’ve tried things the other way. Tell me something Naruto. What are the most important things to you,” asked Nagato. “Like you wouldn’t know? My friends and my village,” said Naruto. “And you would do whatever it took to protect them, not matter what the cost, right,” asked Nagato. “Yes, I would,” said Naruto. (Nagato) “You and I are indeed two sides of the same coin. You see this body of mine? This is the result of my promiss to protect my friends and my village. I would do whatever I could to prevent destruction, but when my village and my friends were endagered, I put my life on the line and this is the result. If your precious village and friends were in danger, would you go that extra step to ensure their safety? Would you be willing to face shinobi and nations and walk over the defeated in gratitude that your loved ones would live another day,” asked Nagato. (Naruto is silent) Switch Scene To Outside of Akatuski’s headquarters: (Nagato is still narrating) “When someone cares for something, there is always a risk of losing it, that brings hatred,” said Nagato. (Dozens upon dozens of Cloud Shinobi are surronding the infrastructure however, there are also many defeated ones laying nearby. In the middle of it all Team Falcon is exhausted. Suigetsu is kneeling on one knee. Juugo is scratched up however remains steady and firm. Sasuke is supporting Karin by having her arm wraped around his neck) “How do you plan to break this chain of hatred that engulfs us all? Again I state. Let me here your answer,” said Nagato. (Sasuke activates Mangekyou Sharingan) “Sasuke don’t over do it. You don’t have the chakra to use that against this many enemies,” said Karin. “The Uchiha brat and his underlings are definately troublesome,” said Cloud nin. “With this many of us, I’m surprised they were able to keep up for this long. No wonder Killer Bee had trouble with them. But they can’t take all of us,” said Cloud nin 2. (They commence on Falcon’s location) “They just keep appearing one after another. It never ends. If you have something planned Sasuke, better use it now,” said Suigetsu. “I have plan, listen carefully,” said Sasuke.

@vincent. lol. indeed it appears to be so. wihout our noticing.haha. our religious reflections are not way out of context though. we are still very much in the thick of the discussion about NAGATO's BELIEF SYSTEM: how he is justifying the evils, i.e., the mass murders, that he has done. if my humble attempt at psychoanalysis is correct, nagato is using or blaming the pain and suffering he bears in order to justify the crimes that he has committed -- "my pain is greater," he declares to naruto. it is possible that the immensity of his pain and suffering has stunted his heart which is now aching to be understood, shouting out for someone to share his pain. it has made him such an insecure being, unhappy and hateful of people who seem to be enjoying a normal happy life, while his soul lives in the dungeons of his past. in other words, he is a person who longs for something more real than his pain; he seeks for something much stronger than his miseries; he poses the question of peace because his heart is tired of all the harsh realities of life. if he is, then i understand him. i, too, find myself at times, trying to justify myself, failing miserably -- for guilt is such a brat, and my shadow is my own accuser.lol. but can nagato's pain, his suffering, his insecurity enough to justify his acts of imposing the same pain, suffering, and insecurity/fear in other people? are we justified in making people suffer so that they can learn the meaning of life? who do we think we are (even if we are parents), thinking that we can really teach anything to anyone? isn't manipulating the lives of people playing god, or is it just plain insecurity/fear? ancient wisdom tells us, "when the student is ready, the teacher will come." we can only share our learnings, humbly offer some guidance and support, but people must be given the choice to learn from them or use our insights as they see fit. we are all students of Life, Jesus himself says (in Lk.19:18), "Why do you call me good. no one is good, except God alone." The great Teacher/Rabbi showed the right attitude towards Life and learning -- we have to be humble. No one has the monopoly of truths except the one who knows he does not know everything -- so he asks. No one has absolute power except the one who shares it -- just because he has also received it from others. Yes you are right vincent, all these pain and suffering that life brings [esp, those scars that come from our family members and loved ones :] are meaningless (and thus, are evil) if they are devoid or separated from LOVE. However, Nagato has shunned love -- for he blames love (esp his parents' loving sacrifice to save him) for all suffering. So his pain is empty, as hell.

i know Nagato has suffered a lot and his idea of bringing the world to peace is not wrong, however just because he has suffered PAIN before it doesn't give him the right to try and bring PAIN to other people and let them suffer like he did, and he always claims that HE IS GOD and he has judgement over other people that is just too COLD-HEARTED and it is not fair to innocent people, for me the best way to bring the world to PEACE is forgiveness, however hatred will breed as long as us still exist which are caused by killings, ideas, disagreements, loves or even by confusions.... What i think PEIN is capable of doing in order to help bring the world to peace is by Becoming a hero and try to destroy the BAD PEOPLE like Madara/Orochimaru!

CONFIRMED!!!!!!!! ナルトと長門の会話～ 長門の車椅子から黒い棒がナルトに向けて放たれる ナルト腹に食らってしまう… そこでジライヤの死やカカシがどうやって死んだかを長門から 見てしまう 長門　ナルトを操作してつれて帰ろうとするがナルトは支配されず 　　　黒い棒を抜き去る 小南　この距離なのに長門のチャクラを戻すなんて何て子なの＞＜ ナルト　仇を目の前にして自分がどうできるかみたいな事をいい 　　　　ナルトの目が蛙＋九尾に徐々になっていく ナルト　俺はお前らを許せねえ今すぐにでも殺してやりたい! 長門に特攻！ しかし長門の目の前で急停止し ナルト　俺はお前らの事を何も知らないなぜ憎むようになったのか 　　　　話してくれ！ んで長門が語り始める 　　俺の痛みは２つ　１つは両親が殺されたこと んでここから長門の過去話に突入 大戦真っ只中逃げ遅れた家族が家の中で隠れている そこに２人の忍者が家に入ってくる なんか食い物があるかも知れない探せ～ 長門父母は　長門に隠れていなさいといい ２人で忍者に特攻 忍者は　敵だ～と父母を瞬殺　 ここにもう一人いるぞ～ 食い物探していた忍者 死体を見て　おいこの人達は一般人だぞ 殺した忍者　なんで戦いのど真ん中に一般人が…すまんなボウズ その時外で雷がなり　光ったときに長門が見たものは　木の葉の額当て 長門　うあああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ ここで輪廻眼が出て来たところで　 完

CONFIRMED!!! Nagato talks about Jiraiya and Kakashi with Naruto. Nagato shots a black rod into Naruto's stomach, right in the middle of the seal, trying to take over Naruto's body, Naruto isn't affected, Naruto changes from his frog eyes, to kyubi eyes, and in the end of the chapter, Nagato tries an suicidal attack on Naruto. Or something like that from the text above

so how long was the talking in chapter 444 and btw, to vicenthi i am not a religious person i dont even go to any church but i have read about other religion and their foundation and i just thought they are all the same or they all have one thing in common, all my ideas are based on observation and science (human behavior) but still i am capable of debating with religious people

The talking is pretty much in the whole chapter, as I said, Nagato talks with Naruto about Kakashi and Jiraiya, and then Nagato talk about his past, how his parents were killed, how he saw them murdered in front of his eyes, and then how the Rin'negan awakened. (The Rin'negan didn't awakened when he was shown with Jiraiya, that time, it was the first time we have seen Nagato's eyes, and the Rin'negan, before that, Nagato's eyes were covered with hair, but he already had the Rin'negan)

CONFIRMED!!!!! Nagato and Naruto start discussion 2black roads comes up from nagato's wheelchair and attack naruto in his chest Nagato - using that roads - shows how jiraya and kakashi died Nagato thinks to control naruto but it isn't so. Konan: Even if he's so close he rejected nagato's chakra. What a guy! Naruto sais that it was planned and his eyes start mixing frog style's eyes and kyuubi style's eyes. Naruto: i cant forgive you, now let's finish that. And he attacks Nagato but then he stops and he asks Nagato about his past. Nagato starts talking Nagato: I felt pain twice. First time when my parents got killed and here flashback starts During the ninja war my family escaped. we hid into an house but 2ninja came in looking for food. Nagato's mother told him to stay hide. Then his parents attacked ninja and they were killed by enemies. Enemy saw nagato and then he asked "why do privates should be in the middle of that war? Im sorry kid" right that moment a storm started outisde. the ninjutsu it's from a konoha ninja. Nagato: "aaaaaaaaaaaaa" Rinnegan was shown

wtf... sooo freeaakin long comments.. hahaha... cant find enuf time to read them though... LOL

i have to say i seen the spoiler and its crazy naruto in nine tailed sage mode wonder what kind of things he will be able to do in that state also wonder if this will help him fight the uchiha's so they wont be able to control the nine tailed fox.

I don't know, but Naruto almost at the end of the chapter says to Nagato: "I know, I just can't forgive you, it's beyond me", so Naruto found the answer to what The 4th said? I don't think he will kill Nagato after he hears his story. BUT!!!!! Nagato says that his parents are killed by Konoha ninjas, well, wtf, if he hated them that much, how come he accepted Jiraiya!? He was wearing a headband from Konoha!! Why?

whoah!!! frog sage eyes + kyuubi eyes naruto!?! awesome, fellow naruto fanboys just got their dreams come true. we wonder what naruto could do with nature chakra + kyuubi chakra combined. :D

It seems that Kishi has given us a glimpse into the future concerning Naruto and his ability to advance. Maybe, this is a new collaboration with Naruto and the Kyuubi, nah! Naruto is learning how to channel the power of the 9-tails. Look out Madara. LOL Go Naruto!

Good news, on 14th of May, the episode 109. is titled "Cursed Seal Counterattack" .... so, banzai, the anime returns to the manga!

so we still have to wait another month is what ur saying ^ man ive been waiting for what seems like forever to see sasuke and deidara's battle, ever since i saw sasori fight with sakura i couldnt wait to see this next battle. Its going to be epic!

oh thank God, there's a definite date already that the filler should end -- as i often assure myself -- "this, too, shall pass."

new chapter out 444 at onemanga. I dont know but for some reason i was expecting more from that chapter. :(

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/444/01/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/444/01/ have fun ^_^

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