I AM!

maybe itachi lets sasuke live during the clan masacre because he doubts that he can defeat madara and sasuke is his back up

Hoohohohoho..... 103...

Itachi was thinking that with Madara's MS, and the unbelievable power he has because of it that even the strongest bijuu can be controlled by it, no one could ever defeat him once and for all. With all that could stop him being dead or dying in the process, that is, the first and the fourth, Itachi knows that the best he could do is also to gain MS. But that could only somehow equal Madara's MS. He needed a third MS user, and what fate it was indeed, that he found out... Sasuke and himself were unique brothers... just like Madara and his brother. Then Itachi knew, this is fate-- either Sasuke or himself would have to die... as a sacrifice, to be able to equal, surpass, and defeat evil... Madara. And as Madara gained his EMS by killing his brother, he knew of no other way to do that as well. He and Sasuke has to kill each other. But Kakashi showed him the way. The Sharingan has a "good side" that Madara does not know. It is that it honors love and it correlate, sacrifice, by way of giving the Sharingan as a gift. Sasuke has chosen the good path so far [that is by refusing to kill Naruto in order to gain MS]... and he was happy that his brother chose it and was made stronger because of his good heart. Note that Sasuke awakened his Sharingan while fighting Haku, and defending those he loves, esp. Naruto, even to the point of dying for them. Obito's Sharingan was awakened in this way, too. The Sharingan is taking its different course in the path of righteousness, of love and sacrifice. And for Obito-Kakashi's Sharingan developing into MS, Itachi's hope is awakened. No one has to walk the same path he did. Indeed, no one can ultimately defeat evil with evil. Only good can triumph over evil. And Itachi's MS has given him a cursed existence, he has already become tainted... and that is why the light is going farther away from him. The curse of the evil MS is blindness. Therefore, Sasuke was Itachi's redemption. Before the fight even began, Itachi knew he had to die...

correction: He (Itachi) and Sasuke HAD to kill each other.

oh heya melo,.if madara actually lied, then who will tell sasuke the truth about his clan?

correction 2: It is that it (=the Sharingan) honors love, and its correlate-- sacrifice, and therefore, lends its great power if it is given as a gift. to continue on the same line: I have reason to believe that Madara's brother gave his MS eyes as a gift to Madara. Since Madara was blind already, he was at a disadvantage. Madara's brother was well, and was not blind. So how would Madara win over his brother? That could be possible if (1) Madara was more powerful [that is, perhaps he knew already that killing a clan member makes his MS stronger. Note: ch398p18: I exhausted every resource I could get... my friends --yes, plural--, my brother, everything... what could that "everything" mean? if we should follow the the parallelism, Madara killed his friend/s, his brother, and "everything"... could this read: "his whole clan"?] Or as I said, (2) Madara's brother allowed himself to die for this brother. That is why, the "change of new host" made the younger brother's eyes transform into "an entirely new eye technique."

correction: He (Itachi) and Sasuke HAD to kill each other.

correction 2: It is that it (=the Sharingan) honors love, and its correlate-- sacrifice, and therefore, lends its great power if it is given as a gift. to continue on the same line: I have reason to believe that Madara's brother gave his MS eyes as a gift to Madara. Since Madara was blind already, he was at a disadvantage. Madara's brother was well, and was not blind. So how would Madara win over his brother? That could be possible if (1) Madara was more powerful [that is, perhaps he knew already that killing a clan member makes his MS stronger. Note: ch398p18: I exhausted every resource I could get... my friends --yes, plural--, my brother, everything... what could that "everything" mean? if we should follow the the parallelism, Madara killed his friend/s, his brother, and "everything"... could this read: "his whole clan"?] Or as I said, (2) Madara's brother allowed himself to die for this brother. That is why, the "change of new host" made the younger brother's eyes transform into "an entirely new eye technique." He gave his eyes to Madara as a gift... it was love and sacrifice.

I guess next time that sasuke sees Naruto a different reaction comes up. Probably something like itachi telling naruto a message in genjutsi that's stored in sasukes mangekyou sharingan somehow. Naruto is the one to be trusted to itachi, because of his vast conviction of doing good and so. I guess Itrachi will reveal the truth about Danzou and maybe those lol elders. They are always so acting so .**.**. s@!$! so the screw with them. Anyways the truth will be revealed to sasuke, but naruto will be the one to convince him from another point of view. THE VIEW OF ITACHI TO NARUTO!!! (mark my words LOL)

@110 yeah, i got a feeling itachi already told something to naruto via genjutsu,.it's feel such a waste if itachi's sascriface become nothing coz sasuke choose to believe every madara's word and become konoha's enemy.

@ 106, i again theorize that it is Itachi himself who will tell Sasuke the whole truth... by way of Tsukuyomi. Itachi's MS in Sasuke will self-activate the Tsukuyomi when the appropriate time comes... and as if, Itachi has stored all his memory in it, reveals it all to Sasuke like a movie flashing before his very eyes... the legend of the Sharingan and the Uchiha. And it is even possible that through that eye in Sasuke, he continues to record the historical developments of the Sharingan. He knows that Madara has kept still a few, but very important, secrets from him; a fact that Madara himself said in the last chapter. So this encounter between Madara and Sasuke is still very much within his plan, and a scenario he knew could not be avoided. He knew Madara would get to Sasuke, to use him and to kill him, to gain his and Sasuke's power... therefore, all the power of the Sharingan. However, Madara is still waiting for Sasuke's MS to show development... he is waiting for the right time to kill Sasuke, by getting to know him first and earning his trust. Either that Sasuke will have to give himself and his eyes to Madara or Madara will have to kill again to get it, Madara will get what Madara wants... the true power of the Sharingan.

then this happened... http://youtube.com/watch?v=53EgGGzhvOk

Probably sasuke will be wanting to fight naruto as a result of madaras speech. Itachi will know th wayof defeating the cursed blood of the uchiha, or anyways naruto will be the one to stop that cursed thirst for power that uchiha madara has. Probably sasuke won't be knowing what to do to stop evil (in madaras eyes that's the leaf) , but naruto will be showing him the true evil that is the cursed wanting of power for madara to be the greatest ninja in the world. Naruto will be messaging itachis message to sasuke as a result of an stored sharingan technique that reacts when sasukes sharingan sees naruto. i think a nice fight between sasuke and naruto willcome up and when naruot will transform into kyuubi anyhow that will be the trigger for itachis message to come up

@109 hmm that's kinda different translation,.i read at onemanga, on page 18 madara said i killed my fren and my brother in my quest to become strongest,.next page:thanks to that i gain the perfecy Mangekyou(EMS),.so what used of killing his entire clan if he already achieve EMS?,.and if you think carefully itachi could do that that night if he want his MS get stronger.

Part of the lure of Madara's words is his claim that he gained a flawless MS. He got Itachi to stick to him this long with the promise that he will reveal the secrets of the Sharingan to Itachi. But he kept a few precious secrets from him, very cunning as he was, as an evil Shinobi. Now he is trying the same style to Sasuke. He is "selling something" to him, trying to see what kind of "bait" would make Sasuke gulp his grand "scheme" of things hook, line, and sinker. I bet Pein took Madara's bait of Power, of being transformed into a god himself and with defeating all the enemies of the Rain country and thereby being the strongest shinobi country the world has ever known. That is, esp. with Konoha being erased from the map.

@112, yeah maybe that it will happen to sasuke,.itachi and madara seems capable to described what was happen with their eyes power,.let's hope tsukyomi can be auto-triggered jut like auto-amaterasu,..if madara want to kill sasuke in order to gaining new power,.why he didn't killed itachi.

@111 hmm i liked that theory that Itachi has already revealed something to Naruto, which was not yet revealed to us. be that as it may, we know that Itachi has secrets that he was meaning to tell Konoha, and his brother Sasuke. In other words, it gives us some kind of evidence that he was indeed working as a deep penetration agent for Konoha.

@117, whoever wins the battle between Itachi and Sasuke, Madara would have to kill eventually. That is part of the plan. He could not kill any one of them until he sees first the development of the Sharingan into a higher power, which he needed to acquire. He needs to get all the info of the Sharingan's development, incl. the latest fight between the brothers, that is why he asked Zetsu to record everything.

what a stupid episode!!!! fuck the never ending story bitch writers

@119,it's obvius is on above sasuke level, if madara really want the eye, he could took it from itachi, why madara would have to wait the result? think madara want to use sasuke's help to summoning back kyubi, ofcourse after he retrieve it first from naruto,

maybe what madara really wants is to taking controlling kyubi back or retrieve what he supposed to have,..he might have use the power twice first when he fought shodaime,..and second was fiften years ago,..jiraiya said he got a feeling that madara summoned kyubi to attack konoha,.seems he know one thing or two about the old time,.bout madara's power,.the chakra nekclace that the first left was used to compressed kyubi's chakra,.maybe 1st have predict that the sasme disaster will happen in again,..it's not a lucky coincidence, he make that neckalce on purpose, hoping that someone will understand how to use his legacy.

@115 oh i used the binktopia translation, hisshoubouraiken's from mangashare.com and through NC. i compared it with onemanga's. and yeah there are a number of important differences. At some point, onemanga is clearer but i feel somehow they missed out some words or phrases. Now i wonder which translation is authoritative. You know the concern with translation is how to render the words... would it be a literal translation or a free translation? The usual maxim is "to be as literal as possible, but as free as necessary." so the literal translation is the one that is better, however, it is less understandable. when this happens that the literal rendering sounds awkward and incomprehensible, a free rendering is given.

@122 yes u got that right Ireng. the MS was needed to controll the Kyuubi, and since the Kyuubi is now inside Naruto, Madara or even Itachi were now incapable of controlling it with their MS. I also think Senju Harashima was able to defeat Madara because he was able to control the Kyuubi's chakra. And I also think Madara loved Harashima, but Harashima rejected him as he only appreciates straight lovin'... so they split. Seriously,hehe, if killing the whole Uchiha clan would not be significant for Madara's thirst for power, then it would be to prevent any other Uchiha to know the secrets of the Sharingan, thereby, eliminating any possible usurpers or candidates for the MS that can equal or surpass him. Since Itachi was under his mentorship, and has a "special" brother like himself, he thought that, yeah, this is enough. I already have my Uchiha specimens. Enough with the breeding, and keep the genes to only the best ones. And use them for my ends. In the end there can only be one Uchiha... Madara. The invincible immortal, with the true power of the Sharingan, he is unsurpassed by none, and the supreme lord of the Shinobi world.

Loopholes to the story of Madara. Danzou and the 3rd were conspirators in this "secret" mission of Itachi? Unlikely. Tsunade clearly mentioned that these two do not go along very well and were rivals to the post of Hokage. The 3rd would never resort to the murder of innocent people, esp. a whole clan!!! how can the village leaders annihilate its whole police force??? Unlikely. Itachi killing his whole clan for the sake of Konoha? How can the Uchiha be an immediate threat to Konoha, that resorting to murdering them all is the best option? Did Itachi show at one point that he loved or was devoted to the village more than he loved his family and whole clan? Again unlikely. And why would Madara agree to ally with the Senju clan? If he himself said that they were often pitted against each other? What paved the way for the alliance? What values, ends, or enemies were they in common with each Why was it that when Madara was defeated and he left the village, no Uchiha came with him, but they stayed in the village? Madara had every reason to get back at his own clan to which he served and sacrificed everything... and then they choose the Senju to lead them? How would Madara know everything about Itachi? He himself said he has no proof, and even asking the remaining oldies who know about the "secret" mission would not confirm his claim as they have a vow to secrecy; he even claimed something of the intention of the dead man Itachi, this is how he wanted it. That he dies as a bad man. Now why would Itachi leave his MS to his brother? Is that enough hint that his intentions were not actually bad? Madara's reading of Itachi is full of claims that refuse to get verified... because they simply can't be verified, they were fabrications... LIES.

Aww man...this stuff is getting so sad......Itachi just played up the bad guy role yet when they asked him to kill the clan he probly disobeyed them by letting Sasuke live as if to say "Anyone but my bro, u bitches!" Cuz he never truly made any attempts to kill Sasuke...he was just playing it up. Idk what to believe about this series anymore, but when they explain it that...UGH! I feel completely fucked over by Masashi, ARGHH! My brain...Imma cry...anyone else feel screwed over and messed with?

STOP THIS FUCKING UCHIHA THING AND GO BACK TO NARUTO.

great theorys by u all but . . . why did nobody mention the fact Count Blah postet in one of the early comments? HASHIRAMA LOOKS EXACLY LIKE ORO?!! somehow oro seems to be much deeper involved in almost every part of the story as i and maby most of u guessed. and i think that kabuto-oro will play an interesting role in the end of the story as well

Goddamn it guys, those are too long posts one after each other. Nooooo way I'm reading them all atm

go back to naruto, come on naruto's character is dead, totally boring the uchihas on the other hand bring the thrill to the series oh and the only reason madara would assist itachi is if the uchihas turned against him when he fought the 1st

damn these watermarks. fuck bleach exile! fuck those fucking assholes in their fucking assholes

heya NW, kudos for having one of the most sensible posts in the early first page posters. :) take your time.

@ 128 phel i agree Hashirama looks like Oro. Specially the smirk and the long black straight hair.

hi everybody, hi melo and nightwizard, anyone knows oro comes from which clan? I'm not sure but I think it isn't mentionted in manga

hey arch. i am not aware which clan oro came from. so far the only tiem we got to see oro's background was in that scene where the third was talking to the child oro as they visit the graves of oro's parents: see http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/344/016/ we can assume that his parents and the rest of his family died in the great war.

thx melo, it seems there is still much more about oro's past, things that will be revealed later. as he is some how immortal, his spirit will back and I think he'll play a significant role in future, as he did in past

ur most welcome arch. i, too, am very interested in the life story of orochimaru. he was the main villain for the most parts of naruto as we know it but little by little we see how he is being set aside as a foil for itachi and madara's plans. see how he was ridiculously humiliated by itachi in his comeback? right now i don't see how he can grab the limelight once again. he seems unessential now to kishi's plot-no-jutsu.

melo some of yours ideas in post 125 confused me -How would Madara know everything about Itachi? and He himself said he has no proof, and even asking the remaining oldies who know about the "secret" mission would not confirm his claim as they have a vow to secrecy; he even claimed something of the intention of the dead man Itachi, this is how he wanted it. That he dies as a bad man. Now why would Itachi leave his MS to his brother? maybe this is the point , i am meaning that Madara has allready cought Sasuke in an ilusion to find out that secrets wich he Itachy cept away from Madara and transfered into Sasuke ...????? and maybe thatswhy Sasuke is still alive

alright am back, sorry melo i lose my connection,..hi everyone

hi ireng

hi Irengninja it's nice to have you back again!

yo semtex,we still need to understand madara's word did he lied or not

hi arch, how you doin?

yeap thats the problem and here non theory of us will help :(

@140, illusion? madara seems so plain and straight. besides as he's the strongest MS, he obviously knows other ways to read sasuke's mind it's ridiculous for madara try to trick a child

yeap thats the problem and here non theory of us will help :(

hey Ireng what's your opinion, why madara even "need" to lie?

well semtex, things are gonna be more and more complicated with no clue

@124,.there must be something else melo,.why did he help itachi that night, if he just afraid that someone from ucihas will surprass him, he must kill them all including itachi,

but you are forgeting that Itachy wasnt a child and the secret that now lies inside Sasuke wont be easy to discover-then mind is a powerfull weapon

@138 i was just emphasizing that what Madara was saying are lies -- he has no proof. the stuff he's saying cannot be verified: danzou and the two old councilors, Madara assumed would never tell anyone about it; and Itachi, the major entity involved, wanted all these to remain a secret and die as a bad guy. For him to actually claim that he knows "also" all the truth about Itachi, is in itself, doubtful. How was he able to know? The self-activating amaterasu does not serve to stop Madara from knowing Itachi's secrets but in this context, it serves to stop Madara from telling the "truth" to Sasuke. Why would Itachi not want to tell Sasuke the truth? Why would Itachi want Sasuke to think he was actually bad... and then give his MS to him? These are essential loopholes in the story of Madara. Apparently, he is not smart as he should be [If he is, then why would he get beaten twice by the Konoha Hokages? Itachi and Sasuke are geniuses, they could win this battle against the Founder.

Btw, i just noticed Sasuke said the exact phrase Itachi late used about Madara to demean Oro, "a pathetic shell of your former self." see http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/344/009/ and http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/386/11/

@147, why he need to lie to sasuke? am still not sure if he would lie or not, example like he said about: it's true that he help itachi that night,.later on this chapter he said itachi is on the mission from the elder that night(uciha clan slaughtering), it seems he want feel sasuke with hatred toward to konoha

maybe the truth was so horrible that Itachy hadnt the courage to tell it and the only way was to transfere all memories and techniques into Sasuke so that after some time he would new all the truth in this way

@151,unless someone from inside inform it to madara,.

ireng about that hatred of konoha and what Itachy said about Madara that he is a shell of his former i- is it posiible that he wants Sasukes body not just his eyes ????

@154,.yeah that could be, coz who will trust someone that to be said "kill your entire clan"?,.and you know he was your own brother

@149 it still does not make sense that itachi should kill (even with the aid of Madara) all of the Uchihas. So far we have not been given a clear motive for Itachi for doing the massacre of these innocent clansmen. While Madara, I've showed, has all the motives. If Itachi indeed had that mission the clan massacre would just be a very painful collateral damage on his part and that of Konoha, but Konoha does not appear to have the motives to kill all the Uchihas, and the Third has been known to us for quite a time and was clearly characterized as a man of justice and compassion. He would neither allow nor order such an evil act. I still maintain that Madara killed the whole clan, or it was Itachi... on Madara's orders. We are also forgetting the major part... if Itachi wanted to protect Sasuke, as Madara himself mentioned; that could be reason enough for Itachi to go along Madara's plans. Help me with my goals or I'll kill even the last person you love that exists. Until the end of his life, Itachi was protecting his brother and would never want any harm done to him. Obviously, Itachi's gesture of giving the MS to Sasuke is to protect him from Madara and warn him to not be brainwashed to the Founder's evil schemes.

OK to many info about this chapter , too many questions and loopholes ,so see you guys in the next chapter goodbye :)

no way melo, you're underestimating madara, he's far above the first just take his long-life (if we don't say immortality) as a proof second, he is the akatsuki founder then why you think itachi'n sasuke are geniuses while he's not and about his fight with first, no one told the truth about their fight, all we know comes from "first"'s apprentices then don't expect them to tell everything if madara was the true winner, that fateful day

@156, am used to think about that, but later it didn't seems like that, if he wanna used the body he can have it from itachi,.he didn't need to wait sasuke,..i just think he turn out his intention to sasuke coz maybe he know itachi would no longer usefull to him coz itachi near his blindness due using MS

It comes down to this. I SAID HE LOVES HIM, I DID IT AHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Well, like, a year ago but enough about it. As I said, Itachi could've acted on Madara's orders to slaughter Uchihas, since he had a mission from 3rd to get close to Madara who could also know about Madara's last attack on Konoha from Minato. And with sadness in his heart he approved it. Or maybe he didn't, but he was overvoted by those other 2 elders and Danzo. Ahh, soo many posibilities

off topic, why madara need to covered back his face after auto-amaterasu,.did it triggered itself after sasuke seeing madara's sharingan?,.supposely after tht, madara actually can disactivated it to prevent amatersu,.could it be because it can't be disactivated? in other words it remain permanent as sharingan form, example: like kakashi has

am just think the posibility that the one who ordered itachi was danzou himself,.maybe it was root mission,.maybe this is the reason why roots have been disbanded from ANBU division,.3rd may not want that happen,.but danzou couldnt get along so he decide it himself.

We must have in mind that Madara could be lying. And that if all this was true, Itachi must've made a mistake somewhere and doesn't want Sasuke to find about it. Buuut, this whole chapter comes down to Sasuke's snaping

maybe not every part,.am sure his telling the truth about his relation with hashirama of senju

yep Iren suspicious behavior, but may be kishi doesn't make his mind on madara's face as you know recently uchiha's are growing larger, and the only differences between madara and sasuke's face are some line around his eyes so madara has to wear a mask to help people don't take him as sasuke!

The thing that bothers me now is... If 1st was that strong, from that strong clan... Why did he rule together with 2nd. Cause we DO see both of them giving advices to Sarutobi

The fact that the leaf village order itachi to kill his clan members... isnt going to go down well with Naruto... there HAS to be something behind this..

@160 you are right arch, i am underestimating Madara. I am just saying he is not much of a pretty convincing liar in this situation. It appears that he was caught unprepared for that MS that Itachi gave to Sasuke. He has to revise his elaborate lie, and now it has gaping holes in it. For him to say I have no proof, is showing an essential weakness to making his claims. The only part that is really convincing was that he has stayed this long to survive... he has the power to do so. The foundations of his claims are his old age and his longevity, and his power as he was able to evade or counter Itachi's Amaterasu. That at least earns him a hearing. Let us see then how he would "masterfully" weave a convincing story to allay/get past Sasuke's doubts and skepticism... so we eagerly await the next chapter.

@158 yeah, something doesn't feel right,.sasuke said itachi coudn't have kill the entire clan by himsef,.this is supposely that elder have to think about too,.they didn't have to assigned itachi if they knew itachi didn't capable to do it by himself

@165 we are sure that Madara IS lying. And I have tried pointing out the parts where his slip is showing, the loopholes to his claims and arguments. However, his story is not yet finished. Let us see if he manages to tie the loose ends well.

senju clan kinda opposite with the ucihas in manipulated kyubi,.wood can compress n shut kyubi's chakra while ucihas seems capable to summoning, and controlling it like pet

vanishing-in-smoke-no-jutsu! bye guys, gtg. :)

it's pretty srange that there are ucihas still around while senju,.didn't seems to be exist , 1st granddaughter doesn't seems have woods ability,.yamato was an experimental.

OMFG KISHI END THE SUSPENSE AND JUST PUT THE WHOLE THING IN PAPER ALREADY... I WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT...

itachi HELLYEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Sick chapter but what I wonder is that where does the history of Konoha fit into the picture. And also it looks as if Madara is also som kinda of smooth talker like kakashi getting sasuke to listen to him whether he would believe it or not that really cool.

In the beginning of the naruto to story reader must realize that Itachi hated his clan and he called it pathetic and maybe the uchiha clan wasnt that cool and that madara helped wipe it out. More has to be explained.

Why do all the exceptional leaders go bad ,except the 4th

when is chapter 399 coming out?

pups....Gianemawachia.....pups....

itachi killed his family and friends.... on orders of konoha? they better give a good motive because i think its bullshit. Madara's motive is clear now btw. by saying that itachi killed everyone on konoha's order he is trying to make him go against konoha

hi lkjjjj

may be sasuke turns to an anti-hero this time, believe me, he has the potential for this, next ep. SASUKE'S REVENGE! he goes and tame kyuubi with his MSharingan once again,

in "naruto" every character has a older copy, someone who shows how he'll behave in futures, just consider naruto-jiraya or sakura-Tsunade, it's probable to see madara (cuz oro is out for a while) as a mirror for sasuke's future all of manga's characters are categorized in bad-guy-camp or obviously-trustworthy-guys-camp, so sasuke can't be an exeption and it seems soon we'll know which sides he belongs to, but he cant be on both

wow such an abandoned and desolate place here has become !

oh damn,I think I'm infected too, an spammer just has bitten me. so in the midnight I'll send spam every where...

damn, it's better to be bitten by an vampire rather than a werewolf

I don't think that Madara is lying. Melo may have described it as the villain usually having a sense of truth and reality warped by their own bias, but I don't think it's the case this time. Until Chapter 397, most thought that Uchiha Itachi was a villain trying to kill Sasuke and obtain his eyes. And most of what Madara said must be true given that Sasuke attained the mangekyou sharingan through his brother. And as Madara speaks about the "Leaf's Origins" the ambiguity behind these relationships like the 1st and Madara, Madara and the Uchiha, Itachi and Sasuke, etc. are falling into place. Reading Naruto, we've all known that the Leaf Village has crossed into gray areas where it comes to "domestic and foreign" policies, example being Neji's father's death, the treatment of Naruto among the council members including Tsunade's promise to wager her life should Naruto be in danger due to Akatsuki. Also I believe that the leaf village also took part in controlling bijuu. So the notion that Uchiha Itachi was used as a sacrifice by the Leaf Village isn't far fetched. And we've seen hints that the Leaf Village's moral capacity is warped by their own bias. I do agree with Ikjjjjj that Madara may try to antagonize Konoha in Sasuke's eyes, but that doesn't mean what Madara says is any less truthful. There really isn't much reason to lie to Sasuke since Madara probably figures no matter what he says Sasuke won't trust him at not completely. I think we should let the story play out. Theories are good, but don't try pass them off as facts. Remember the Tobitoists and Akatsuki Leader-Minato Namikaze. I remember people being so sure that the aforesaid was true.

I hate werewolves, I've a neighbor , an special person, every midnight I can here an strange voice, seems some one is trying to suffocate her screams, but I can hear her subttle moan. something like lament for some one else may be. she is somehow beautiful and really really strange... yehs, really strange, yesterday morning I saw her again, a dark scar on her left hand... she seems to be in a hurry but I knew that it's all fake, cuz all night I was listening to her mourning and try to underestand her scattered and occasional words she was telling something about an starange dark haze emitting from a hole, ... a suspended hole in middle of his room...

so, that was the end of Part.I may be I write about her again ...

@Comment #37 isn't it sunade is from senju clan?

@190 hey athias! i was 1 of those guys who never believed the Tobitoists and the AL-is-Minato, those were ridiculous noobish theories-- imo! I was also doubtful of the bad-image of Itachi and was theorizing that he had hidden intentions which are good all along. Now I am saying that of course not all of what Madara is saying is true, or that all of it is false. As I said in the last chapter's discussion-- the strategy is to build a believable story with obvious facts but inject some subtle untruths in between. make the hearer agree first with successive points, and then build on those points then present the lie which won't appear as big if he said it outright. Madara's story of the beginnings of Konoha is the lure. Sasuke has no way of knowing by himself since he was too young to be there, so this time he has to give it to Madara. But here, I would predict, he will paint a picture of himself as the oppressed one... and the village of Konoha and the Shodai, and his beloved Uchiha clan as the traitors. He was the one who made all these sacrifices for the sake of the clan... he killed his friend/s, his brother, and (did) everything to gain power and protect the welfare of the clan (and perhaps the village) but this is what he gets??? We have no choice but to let Madara tell his story... everyone has the right to his own version of the story. So nobody can stop him, neither will I. But I think it is beneficial that we identify the loopholes and loose ends of his stories and claims. This is a battle of the minds. Let us hear but let us also be mindful, we might be find ourselves assf*cked before we know it. [pardon the language... i just can't get the Madara-is-gay thought out of my mind. He loves Harashima, as he said, the only man he admires. *pukes* LOL]

hahaha don't say I didn't warn you all guys!! Itachi is a good person not evil !!!

@195 hehe the bad guy telling a fellow fratricide freak [killer of his own brother] that his deceased brother was actually good. the ultimate guilt trip... and the proverbial washing of hands.

the strongest hint that itachi may actually be good is that he did not kill or inflict fatal wounds on sasuke and left him all his MS techniques, that is, his Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and his Susano'o! Too heavy a hint that Madara could not deny it, so he has to play along Itachi's gambit here. But in his grand story of Konoha's beginnings, he will launch his greatest attack so far. He is planning a twister of a checkmate. Watch for it guys. Madara has proven to us enough that he is a weed that is hard to kill and has excellent acting skills -- he got many of the noobs to think he was Tobi/Obito. Such a smooth-talker!!! Sasuke don't give your ass to him!!!

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